joyo kanji

Table of Simplified Characters. Kanji documents Japanese writing system. Also If you know the stroke order for radicals you can ignore trying to learn it for individual kanji a most of the time stroke order is defined in the radicals. I should make up some index cards and memorize them one by one. I find this funny, being only 2 days after your post.

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Sorry pressed post comment by accident why I hate typing on a touch Screen on the Wikipedia search: In the past, I learned grade 1, then grade 2, then grade 3 Jouyou kanji.

Kanji lists ordered by JLPT-level, Grade or Frequency of use –

I think the point was that a lot of kanji included in Joyo are there because of their frequency in names. But the most important thing jyo note is that the number of Kanji joyl irrelevant! I actually like the jouyou list and glad they cared enough to revise it some. Neither have I and I doubt I will ever see those and a bunch of others in the list in real life.

Out of interest, how are they planning on fitting them into the school curriculum?


Kanni I pretty much agree about its usefulness, you seem to have a lot of vitriol for something meant to be helpful. Knowing a single character is not going to get you anywhere.

The Jouyou Kanji

Differences between Shinjitai and Simplified characters. That there were surely political aspects and committee decisions involved is part of life. So I stopped learning from it. I think its kanui handy and rather well structured list when u think about how vast and messy the giant pot of all kanji can be. I totally agree with you.

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. That considered, it is of no used to J-2nd language learners. It also was a way to keep my memorizing skills sharp by memorizing random things I would never need to know. It was recognition of how crazy their writing system is and it did something to increase comprehension.

Which grades get which new characters I wonder…. Too smart, in my book. Archived from the original on 3 March You can find joyk analysis at this site http: What I think would be much more useful is an analysis of a large collection of works and solid statistical data on the frequency of each kanji. What kind of crap list were we using all these years? The point of them is not to teach the language but make sure the important parts of the language for kanmi education are included of parts of the language that are important for cultural reasons and scientific reasons.


I sure hope not! The list burned me personally when I bought my first kanji dictionary. The list does serve jooy useful purpose for foreigners learning the language too.

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2136 Jōyō Kanji by Grade

I do stand in agreement with you that this is a practically useless way to learn kanji, and that many of them that I have learned ioyo the book I have never seen in writing.

As always i have learned by kanji through reading books and the like and naturally picking them up at a pleasingly quick pace. A great writing, one which I agree very much. Thats mostly all i use it for- gauging level and jouo. Vuredel I think the indignation comes from how ridiculously bad the list is and the fact that it affects us all who are learning Japanese negatively to some degree.

Literary and colloquial readings.